Just rediscovered you after you you got detwittered. As a theologian, I’m not sure atheism excludes spirituality. Spirituality is sensitivity to the subtle aspects of existence. I think that came from David Bohm. That understanding served me well through my graduate studies without being challenged and it did appear to help others come terms with a lot of conflict among religions and even dialogue between religion and economics as well as science and religion, the latter being my area of research. Thanks for posting and allowing your voice to be heard again, even though I’m a bit late to the party.
We always seem to think that Christianity may be built upon other preexisting belief systems. What if the older societies were reasoning, stumbling, searching towards the truth of Christianity, which was clarified in its current form by the Son of God making a substantial and definitive visit.
It might be that God has made himself manifest on earth and spoke to prophets of pre biblical times on other occasions. Visits we know of in the Bible are the appearances to Abraham just before Sodom and Gomorrah, and also the mysterious and brief appearance of Melchizedek. Other references are made also, which are not noted to be angels but a man who eats with Gideon and another previously wrestles physically with Jacob.
The Unseen Realm (Heiser) is an interesting read that covers some of the previous "visitations" ideas.
Roger Sabbah was born on September 14, 1955 in Fez, Morocco. Like many Jews from that country, his grandparents were rabbis from father to son.
His grandfather was a rabbi in Agadir.
His great grandparents were rabbis in Tiberias and Alexandria.
His father was an accountant, violinist and conductor in Morocco.
At the age of two, his parents moved to France, to Arcueil (a southern suburb of Paris) where Roger Sabbah grew up and completed his schooling.
Passionate about criticism, avid reader of Krisnamurti, but also fond of Brassens, Brel, René Bouchard, Serge Réggiani ... Roger Sabbah studied biblical and classical studies at the Yabné high school in Paris.
In this school, he met Charles Mopsik (future eminent cabalist in the French Jewish community) and became his friend and fellow student.
Roger Sabbah then studied medicine for three years in Abidjan.
He returned to Paris in 1980 and worked in commerce, while being passionate about biblical and Talmudic studies.
He then discovered Egyptology and became fascinated by this field, which he linked to his biblical studies. At the same time, he studied the connection between Hebrew letters and hieroglyphs and discovered the sacred links between the Jewish Cabala and ancient Egypt.
In 1997, he gave up his commercial activity and devoted himself exclusively to his research and to the writing of his first book, The Secrets of the Exodus.
After the enormous success of this book, published in several countries and in several languages, Roger Sabbah became more interested in the Egyptian message contained in the Kabbalah.
After publishing The Secret of the Jews and The Secrets of the Bible, Roger Sabbah discovered the names of the Egyptian gods transcribed in the Kabbalah.
He studied the texts of the Book of the Dead and the texts of the Sarcophagi, and compared them with the Kabbalah.
He published The Jewish Pharaoh in April 2008 at Lattès.
From this date, he published the work The Secret of the 3rd Millennium, then in 2000 he tackled the greatest discovery of his research career. He met Louise Guersan, a writer and history teacher at the Lycée Janson de Saill, who was convinced of this incredible discovery and helped him to write the book requested by Jean-François Champollion in the evening of his life under the name of Sacred Criticism: "The ancient Egyptians were the Jews".
Thank you for your words. The two Christmas posts “broke the rules” of unrelenting Covid material, however it seemed fitting to pause and consider God for at least a day.
As a Christian, I would love to know that this faith was the perfect culmination of all that came before. This is a challenge when considering the historical Church…
I am a Christian because I reasoned my way to it. "Come now, and let us reason together". Rather late in life too. I went from "this is all nothingness" to believing for various reasons, but it all started by observing the variety and complexity of life (especially when snorkeling in the Carib) and thinking about the impossibility of a cell floating together and becoming everything. Then studied evolution and found it to be absurd, considering the extremely punctuated bursts of life and DNA self preservation. Example, modern man is the newest life form on earth (150000 years approx according to mitochondrial dna possibly- Hugh Ross) so there should be an easily discoverable and extensive transitional fossil record for humans, basically everywhere we dig. Instead we get tiny fragments of monkey skeletons from millions of years ago held up as ancient man. All the bones of our "predecessors" can fit inside a coffin size box at this time.
I then studied the Bible and did extensive other reading. But the thing that convinces me most is that Christianity is so counter intuitive and is the last story anyone would make up to try and bring people to. No reward on earth or guarantee of safety and prosperity, good works do not count as a balance against bad works (but should be done as a result of faith and gratitude), a humble man whose teachings are incredibly wise, who walked in a very small part of the world then was killed (Jesus is the most famous "misinformation" spreader and was regarded as such by the authorities at the time). Most people would invent a God who if came to earth would be more on the IronMan model, zooming about, blasting power rays on the evil and justice and rewards being meted out on the spot IMO. Faith alone is all that is needed.
I'm just an amateur searcher who relies on finding others who can reason better than me about all this and who have done extensive work on it for centuries. I believe every person knows inside that it is God not happenstance, but it is overwhelming to consider and easy to reject, at least at first.
As for the Church currently and its history, to me it shows man to be exactly what the Bible says he is - and why we need God. The many church failings are already noted at the start of Revelation LOL.
I also think that these mysteries and limited information left to us is on purpose - and that we have more than enough info anyway-after all, we only need the faith of a child in the end.
Another book I find really helpful is Knowing God by J. I. Packer. Read it from the library then got lucky and found a copy at Value Village.
Just rediscovered you after you you got detwittered. As a theologian, I’m not sure atheism excludes spirituality. Spirituality is sensitivity to the subtle aspects of existence. I think that came from David Bohm. That understanding served me well through my graduate studies without being challenged and it did appear to help others come terms with a lot of conflict among religions and even dialogue between religion and economics as well as science and religion, the latter being my area of research. Thanks for posting and allowing your voice to be heard again, even though I’m a bit late to the party.
We always seem to think that Christianity may be built upon other preexisting belief systems. What if the older societies were reasoning, stumbling, searching towards the truth of Christianity, which was clarified in its current form by the Son of God making a substantial and definitive visit.
It might be that God has made himself manifest on earth and spoke to prophets of pre biblical times on other occasions. Visits we know of in the Bible are the appearances to Abraham just before Sodom and Gomorrah, and also the mysterious and brief appearance of Melchizedek. Other references are made also, which are not noted to be angels but a man who eats with Gideon and another previously wrestles physically with Jacob.
The Unseen Realm (Heiser) is an interesting read that covers some of the previous "visitations" ideas.
This brings to mind something C. S. Lewis wrote:
https://www.cslewis.com/lewis-on-the-bible/
‘Osiris is Israel’ is exceptional. ties it together.
Roger Sabbah was born on September 14, 1955 in Fez, Morocco. Like many Jews from that country, his grandparents were rabbis from father to son.
His grandfather was a rabbi in Agadir.
His great grandparents were rabbis in Tiberias and Alexandria.
His father was an accountant, violinist and conductor in Morocco.
At the age of two, his parents moved to France, to Arcueil (a southern suburb of Paris) where Roger Sabbah grew up and completed his schooling.
Passionate about criticism, avid reader of Krisnamurti, but also fond of Brassens, Brel, René Bouchard, Serge Réggiani ... Roger Sabbah studied biblical and classical studies at the Yabné high school in Paris.
In this school, he met Charles Mopsik (future eminent cabalist in the French Jewish community) and became his friend and fellow student.
Roger Sabbah then studied medicine for three years in Abidjan.
He returned to Paris in 1980 and worked in commerce, while being passionate about biblical and Talmudic studies.
He then discovered Egyptology and became fascinated by this field, which he linked to his biblical studies. At the same time, he studied the connection between Hebrew letters and hieroglyphs and discovered the sacred links between the Jewish Cabala and ancient Egypt.
In 1997, he gave up his commercial activity and devoted himself exclusively to his research and to the writing of his first book, The Secrets of the Exodus.
After the enormous success of this book, published in several countries and in several languages, Roger Sabbah became more interested in the Egyptian message contained in the Kabbalah.
After publishing The Secret of the Jews and The Secrets of the Bible, Roger Sabbah discovered the names of the Egyptian gods transcribed in the Kabbalah.
He studied the texts of the Book of the Dead and the texts of the Sarcophagi, and compared them with the Kabbalah.
He published The Jewish Pharaoh in April 2008 at Lattès.
From this date, he published the work The Secret of the 3rd Millennium, then in 2000 he tackled the greatest discovery of his research career. He met Louise Guersan, a writer and history teacher at the Lycée Janson de Saill, who was convinced of this incredible discovery and helped him to write the book requested by Jean-François Champollion in the evening of his life under the name of Sacred Criticism: "The ancient Egyptians were the Jews".
you will not be disappointed :-)
lookup the latest books by Roger Sabbah
Hard to find online - any sites to recommend?
Will do
Thank you for your words. The two Christmas posts “broke the rules” of unrelenting Covid material, however it seemed fitting to pause and consider God for at least a day.
As a Christian, I would love to know that this faith was the perfect culmination of all that came before. This is a challenge when considering the historical Church…
Will check out Unseen Realm.
I am a Christian because I reasoned my way to it. "Come now, and let us reason together". Rather late in life too. I went from "this is all nothingness" to believing for various reasons, but it all started by observing the variety and complexity of life (especially when snorkeling in the Carib) and thinking about the impossibility of a cell floating together and becoming everything. Then studied evolution and found it to be absurd, considering the extremely punctuated bursts of life and DNA self preservation. Example, modern man is the newest life form on earth (150000 years approx according to mitochondrial dna possibly- Hugh Ross) so there should be an easily discoverable and extensive transitional fossil record for humans, basically everywhere we dig. Instead we get tiny fragments of monkey skeletons from millions of years ago held up as ancient man. All the bones of our "predecessors" can fit inside a coffin size box at this time.
I then studied the Bible and did extensive other reading. But the thing that convinces me most is that Christianity is so counter intuitive and is the last story anyone would make up to try and bring people to. No reward on earth or guarantee of safety and prosperity, good works do not count as a balance against bad works (but should be done as a result of faith and gratitude), a humble man whose teachings are incredibly wise, who walked in a very small part of the world then was killed (Jesus is the most famous "misinformation" spreader and was regarded as such by the authorities at the time). Most people would invent a God who if came to earth would be more on the IronMan model, zooming about, blasting power rays on the evil and justice and rewards being meted out on the spot IMO. Faith alone is all that is needed.
I'm just an amateur searcher who relies on finding others who can reason better than me about all this and who have done extensive work on it for centuries. I believe every person knows inside that it is God not happenstance, but it is overwhelming to consider and easy to reject, at least at first.
As for the Church currently and its history, to me it shows man to be exactly what the Bible says he is - and why we need God. The many church failings are already noted at the start of Revelation LOL.
I also think that these mysteries and limited information left to us is on purpose - and that we have more than enough info anyway-after all, we only need the faith of a child in the end.
Another book I find really helpful is Knowing God by J. I. Packer. Read it from the library then got lucky and found a copy at Value Village.
Any issues msg me.... enjoy
Syncretism is key to where we are today
they are available in English
2nd book:
Osiris is Israel
read that first
amazon:
ANCIENT EGYPTIANS WERE THE JEWS: The greatest imposture in the history of mankind: 1 (THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS ARE AN INVENTION OF THE ANCIENT GREEKS)
the 2 latest books are technical dealing with ‘Egypt’ hieroglyphs & Septuagint (Torah)
https://m.youtube.com/@rogersabbah3143/featured